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generik · May 11, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Over the past few days I think I've seen quite a lot of what Factions have to offer.. so where's the so called big marketplace (aka Auction House) and increased storage boxes that Gaile has happily goaded us into believe are forthcoming but obviously no where in sight?

MMSDome · May 11, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56

it was said they wouldnt come out with this till Chapter 3. They began making Chapter 2 right after Ch. 1 was released, probably even before. They had no time at all to make a auction house in the game considering people didnt want it till later after ch. 1 was released, therefor putting an in game auction house was to late. Wait 6 months for the auction house!

Ka El Windstorm · May 11, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56

They never said it would come with the game, but that it is a work in progress...Just don't hold your breathe.

guppy · May 11, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01

I think it may be possible for them to update it into the game since it doesn't directly affect any gameplay mechanics, just items and the trades.

I hope they do try and do it before ch.3, because I don't want to believe the next (in my opinion) important type of update to the game will only come every chapter.

MMSDome · May 11, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06

an auction house is a pretty big update, as small as it may seem just think of thousands of people putting items for bid. How do they sort it all out so that you dont have tons of space to scroll, its not a simple and easy thing to do.

generik · May 11, 2006, 01:09 AM // 01:09

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

it was said they wouldnt come out with this till Chapter 3. They began making Chapter 2 right after Ch. 1 was released, probably even before. They had no time at all to make a auction house in the game considering people didnt want it till later after ch. 1 was released, therefor putting an in game auction house was to late. Wait 6 months for the auction house!

If it truly took them so long to produce Chap 2, I do not even dare to think about the crap Chapter 3 will be, being cobbled together in a mere 6 months. That said I think I will just wait for official word that the features I want are out instead of "trusting" Anet's hype and koolaid

MMSDome · May 11, 2006, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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Originally Posted by generik

If it truly took them so long to produce Chap 2, I do not even dare to think about the crap Chapter 3 will be, being cobbled together in a mere 6 months. That said I think I will just wait for official word that the features I want are out instead of "trusting" Anet's hype and koolaid

your view on factions is your personal opinion. You try and make a game like guild wars perfect, it takes lots of time. Its not something you whip up in a quick 6 months, it takes much longer. And for what ive seen theyve done an awsome job. Kudos do the NCSOFT-ANET Alliance!

Eclair · May 11, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by generik

If it truly took them so long to produce Chap 2, I do not even dare to think about the crap Chapter 3 will be, being cobbled together in a mere 6 months. That said I think I will just wait for official word that the features I want are out instead of "trusting" Anet's hype and koolaid

Actually, they've been working on chapter 3 since they started working on chapter 2 I believe. (2 different teams) so chapter 3 will also have been worked on for a year when it gets released.

Sientir · May 11, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

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Originally Posted by generik

If it truly took them so long to produce Chap 2, I do not even dare to think about the crap Chapter 3 will be, being cobbled together in a mere 6 months. That said I think I will just wait for official word that the features I want are out instead of "trusting" Anet's hype and koolaid

You do realize that they have 2 development teams right? One team works on the even numbered campaigns, and one on the odd numbered ones. That way, each game gets a full year of production, not six months. Six months is WAY too short to make anything decent, which is why they have multiple development teams.

generik · May 11, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

your view on factions is your personal opinion.

And likewise your view on fedex is your personal opinion as well.

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

You try and make a game like guild wars perfect, it takes lots of time. Its not something you whip up in a quick 6 months, it takes much longer.

Ah yes, time.. which Anet obviously didn't invest enough of.

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

And for what ive seen theyve done an awsome job. Kudos do the NCSOFT-ANET Alliance!

Yes, Kudos do you too!

MMSDome · May 11, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43

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Originally Posted by generik

And likewise your view on fedex is your personal opinion as well.

Ah yes, time.. which Anet obviously didn't invest enough of.

Yes, Kudos do you too!

so you take my typos and that is how you make a arguement? Always a sign of your weakness.

How did they not invest enough time? THERE IS BUGS IN THE GAME YES. There is always bugs in every game because they dont know whats gonna be wrong before the release a game so they can zap the prpblem. They arent like most game addicts that farm for 4587 hours and notice a glitch, you cant blame them for that. Try and join a major game company that manufactures high selling games and take a walk in their shoes for a while, ITS NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINK.

Argen · May 11, 2006, 06:11 AM // 06:11

Wow... normally, it takes more than 10 total posts in a thread before the OP starts attacking people for their typos.

I'd say wait for an official word, I hope there is a big SF-style update in the game, maybe they will sneak it with that... or they'll wait until they nerf all weapons to the stats of candy canes and have it come out there.

The Auction House wasn't a promised feature for Chapter 2, it was just a promised feature in the future.

michaeldt · May 11, 2006, 11:05 AM // 11:05

I wonder what the OP would have said if anet had said fations was being delayed by 3 months? or indeed, many of the others who have so much to complain about...

Gonzo · May 11, 2006, 12:08 PM // 12:08

Actually more storage has never been said by Gaile, even the option for Auction houses has not been mentioned.

The only thing that has been said (over and over and over again btw check about any log in, say, march) are:
- Storage improvements will be made.
- Trade system improvements will be made.
- This will be done some time after release of Factions.

The storage system will be something new, but it probably won't be more storage (this has also been confirmed), I have no idea what it will be though, nothing has been said about this.

Cyan The Archer · May 11, 2006, 01:30 PM // 13:30

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Originally Posted by michaeldt

I wonder what the OP would have said if anet had said fations was being delayed by 3 months? or indeed, many of the others who have so much to complain about...

Lol, i really want to hear that too. Good answer

led-zep · May 11, 2006, 02:09 PM // 14:09

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

How did they not invest enough time? THERE IS BUGS IN THE GAME YES. There is always bugs in every game because they dont know whats gonna be wrong before the release a game so they can zap the prpblem. They arent like most game addicts that farm for 4587 hours and notice a glitch, you cant blame them for that. Try and join a major game company that manufactures high selling games and take a walk in their shoes for a while, ITS NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINK.

thats actually why proper games companies employ testers so games arent totally bugged on release, but it seems with a lot of games these days its release the game then patch it later.
still to release the game as they did with no way to spend your factions and npc's not working s pretty poor by anyones standards. at least they eventually sorted that one though.

generik · May 11, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Still when playing through faction much of the earlier content feels so unoriginal. The Afflicited looks just like... headcrabbed scientists from Half Life. The Mantids? Remember the Antlions? Hell they look awfully similar.

Plus I don't have to mention how we have the same skins reused from GW:P.

What's more there is nothing in factions that's similar to SF or ToPK or UW or FoW (ie: PvE areas that are not elitist but somewhat challenging, zones that you can just sit down, and enjoy without some *huge* commitment).

Gonzo · May 11, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

I agree with that. I haven't tried the Challenge missions though. But for those that buy only Factions, you can still enter FoW and UW from Cantha. I hope one of the other gods will get a realm soon.

Stockholm · May 11, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

How did they not invest enough time? THERE IS BUGS IN THE GAME YES. There is always bugs in every game because they dont know whats gonna be wrong before the release a game so they can zap the prpblem. They arent like most game addicts that farm for 4587 hours and notice a glitch, you cant blame them for that. Try and join a major game company that manufactures high selling games and take a walk in their shoes for a while, ITS NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINK.

Any company selling a product have to TEST and retest a product before it is relesed. When you sell something to the public it has to work according to it's spec's , if not it's a faulty product and should be recalled. A game is a product just like a computer or a car.

Alex Weekes · May 11, 2006, 02:23 PM // 14:23

Factions is a major content release. If you think back (or read interviews from last year), you'll remember that it has been stated previously that content releases will usually be made via a campaign purchase.

Features such as improved trade mechanisms, storage and more are free updates. They'll be added to the game, at no cost, as soon as the individual features are ready. For example, the Balthazar Faction unlocking feature was added between campaigns, as have other features since the release of Prophecies (eg cape and hat visibility toggles).

Many features that players request are being worked on, and they won't be held back when they are finally ready. You'll get them as soon as they are ready

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